By: George @ 11:09 AM - EST
Astounding new video footage of Building 7 & the North World Trade Center Tower has suddenly appeared on the net posted by an anonymous user November 1st, 2008.
- The video of Building 7 shows a series of windows being blown out in a perfectly vertical line for several floors just prior to free fall collapse.
- The video on the North Tower eerily reveals the center structural columns of elevator shafts still standing shrouded in cement dust.
This footage was posted to video sharing network Veoh.com on November 1, 2008. No information or data accompanies the video and there is no sound on the original file. The video was posted to the following link by ‘GldBr,’ a user with no other videos or information.
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Looks like they did a great job
shredding all those criminal investigation
files, I hope the
got to watch their 42virgins burn up
in the lake of fire?
This person was involved, new exactly where to observe and was carefully watching the progression of each collapse, from the begining of each at specific locations where the explosives were placed.
We got away with it and there is nothing you can do.
Hey!! Did anyone find that ‘lost-in-flight’ sixth nuclear bomb that accidently fell off the wing of a B-52 during a flight between air-force bases across Amerika last year?
The movies say a thousand words; two of which are:
Inside job!!!!!
Is this the video the five dancing Israelis took?
Well, well the video appears to be taken by the crooks themselves. Good job.
As an architect, I can tell you that those buildings were clearly taken down by controlled demolition. Those windows blasting at the free fall speed are clear evidence.
9/11 was definitely an inside job. We need to take action and expose the real criminals behind it. Francesco Cossiga, former italian President and the man who told the story about Operation Gladio declared that all secret services around the world new for a fact that it was the work of the CIA and the Mossad.
I hope someone is able to pinpoint exactly where this footage was taken from….then put in a request from all the helicopters flying around that day (and that one private plane and heck satellite if need be)…and see if anything shows up from that observation point….My thoughts are this: Bush & his Neo Con cronies planning/attack squad needed to go into Afghanistan to get the oil/gas pipeline rights…they used 911 to take us there, and then they used that time of fear and horror to convince the American people to go into Iraq for more oil stealing and base building…Bush doesn’t care about democracy, and he and his cronies didn’t care about Iraqis…Bush just cared about what his administration’s goals were….I’d say he punked us all…He did accomplish his missions…and that’s why he has no remorse or regrets…I hope whoever leaked this footage will continue to leak other information…It is obviously an insider….and he/she is either on the outs with the perpertrators…or has left a signature card so as to follow through on a threat if Bush doesn’t do something for them before he leaves office…meaning they will continue to release even more damming evidence. I pray that the truth will come out - to prove without a doubt, that this was truly an inside job…
Lala, the missing nuke will probably show up in a large city near you. Of course it’ll happen after 11/4 and Bushie will do something fascist like implement martial law. All as planned.
“If you get away with it at the time, you get away with it forever.” However, the more outrageous the crime, the longer it takes to fade from the national consciousness. Take JFK, who cares any more? The main suspects are dead. Pity there’s not a Hell for them to go to.
But if Obama as president initiated an independent enquiry into the events surrounding the attacks on 9-11, there’s would surely be sufficient evidence to destroy the Republican Party. The downside is that Obama would have to watch his back for ever more (well, he would anyway). Also, the international reputation of the US would be tarnished to such any extent that pariah nation status beckoned, with the inevitable knock-on impact on business and commerce. In fact, devolution may become the preferred option. If you’re ready for that, then go for it; clean the stables. But it is one gigantic can of worms you are preparing to open.
everyone keeps saying the wars were for oil. Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to just purchase tho oil from them?
Those Al_Qaeedies are pretty smart. I reckon they’re in cahoots with Batman. He’s the only one we know of who has all sorts of state-of-the-art technology that is known to function from within a cave… and he wears a mask.
And what about that nooklar bomb that ‘fell off’ a B-52 last year & was never found?
Hey Lalala… They never found the nuke but 6 of the crewmen turned up dead the next week in separate accidents…
“Six members of the US Air Force who were involved in the Minot AFB incident, have died mysteriously, an anti-Bush activist group says.
The incident happened when a B-52 bomber was “mistakenly” loaded with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states, prompting an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander.
The plane was carrying Advanced Cruise Missiles from Minot Air Force Base, N.D, to Barksdale Air Force Base on August 30.
The Air Combat Command has ordered a command-wide stand down on September 14 to review procedures, officials said.
The missiles, which are being decommissioned, were mounted onto pylons on the bomber’s wings and it is unclear why the warheads had not been removed beforehand.
In addition to the munitions squadron commander who was relieved of his duties, crews involved in the incident, including ground crew workers had been temporarily decertified for handling munitions.
The activist group Citizens for Legitimate Government said the six members of the US Air Force who were directly involved as loaders or as pilots, were killed within 7 days in ‘accidents’.
The victims include Airman First Class Todd Blue, 20, who died while on leave in Virginia. A statement by the military confirmed his death but did not say how he died.
In another accident, a married couple from Barksdale Air Force Base were killed in the 5100 block of Shreveport-Blanchard Highway. The two were riding a 2007 Harley-Davidson motorcycle, with the husband driving and the wife the passenger, police said.
“They were traveling behind a northbound Pontiac Aztec driven by Erica Jerry, 35, of Shreveport,” the county sheriff said. “Jerry initiated a left turn into a business parking lot at the same time the man driving the motorcycle attempted to pass her van on the left in a no passing zone. They collided.”
Adam Barrs, a 20-year-old airman from Minot Air Force Base was killed in a crash on the outskirts of the city.
First Lt. Weston Kissel, 28, a Minot Air Force Base bomber pilot, was killed in a motorcycle crash in Tennessee, the military officials say.
Police found the body of a missing Air Force captain John Frueh near Badger Peak in northeast Skamania County, Washington.
The Activist group says the mysterious deaths of the air force members could indicate to a conspiracy to cover up the truth about the Minot Air Base incident. “
they say the video no longer available please link it to another site.
wooow.. just watched the video again closely.. look at all the “squibs” go off on the front of the building at 20 seconds. Helluva demolition team. If one of those bastards would step forward and confess what he did, he should get the Medal of Honor right after Bush and Cheney face the firing squad.
This person was involved, new exactly where to observe and was carefully watching the progression of each collapse, from the begining of each at specific locations where the explosives were placed
The world laughs at you America………why, hasn’t ANYONE done anything about this. Is there not one person brave, smart enough to go after the true attackers….NO…so then, think of this PEOPLE.. if you do nothing then, you are ALL to blame..thats why PEOPLE the world laughs at you….DO something….NOW!!!!!
Excellent account of 9/11 and Mossad:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=309228910&blogID=441442669
The stresses on a building immediately preceding catastrophic failure are completely consistent with a vertical line of windows exploding as the first critical vertical structural support fails.
The video actually confirms structural failure by the accumulated effects of random damage aggravated by the sun’s heating which expanded the structural components of the building during the following hours, rather than a planned demolition.
A planned demolition would not have hoped that the single vertical and off center support would be sufficient to bring the building down. If it were planned, we would expect to see a horizontal, not verticle, line of explosions near the bottom floor which knock multiple supports out of the building on a single floor to ensure the collapse.
Anyone considering a conspiracy which placed planned explosions and orchestrated two suicide planes to cover up the planned explosions should carefully add up the math. Wouldn’t it just be easier to cut the whole operation down to one step and simply find suicide airline pilots? Which is the easier way to bring the building down?
1) Bribe hundreds of contractors, including specialty contractors who plan building demolitions.
2) Secretly install these explosives with out alerting the building maintenance staff or alternatively bribe the entire building maintenance staff.
3) Kill those staff memebers who can not be bribed.
4) Find suicidal airplane pilots
5) Convince the building management that the explosions are going to take place days later so that they remain in the building and are killed in the explosion.
6) Bribe more people to keep a watch on the others who were bribed to keep them quiet before the detonation but are actually planned to be in the building to kill them off, to make sure those people actually make it to the building that morning before the detonation.
7) Coordinate the airplanes with the remote detonation of the charges.
9) Hope that none of them can not be bribed.
10) Find and kill the hundreds or thousands of people that could not be bribed or that had been bribed and were planed to have been in the building at the time of the demolition, but were unexpectedly out of the building or that actually survived the building explosion to ensure they don’t spill the beans.
That would leave only a few video tapes including a vertical line of exploding windows as the only evidence.
Wouldn’t it just be easier to cut the whole operation down to one step and simply find suicide airline pilots?
If you wanted to use fear and national security as an excuse to pass oppressive legislation, wouldn’t it be even safer and simpler to simply wait until the inevitable happens. That way the “conspirators” can not even be tied to the incident?
Jerry
Hey Jerry Wickey !!
Your “pilots only did it !!” - theory sounds plausible. Your right. It is a lot of work to co-ordinate all of that demolition stuff.
But what about building 7? No plane.
This video in no way shows “explosions” blowing out the windows. The windows are broken out by wall distortion as the floors pull in the outside wall after the key column fails and allows the floors to cave in.
WTC 7 a high-rise office building met all New York City codes and was not hit by any planes and was destroyed by a fire in ordinary combustible furnishings. You may say it’s highly unreasonable to believe that 4 steel constructed high-rise buildings collapsed from fire in one day? Well they all had one thing in common; Long Span steel composite floors with connections not designed for thermal effects. In the design of these buildings the removal of interior columns interfering with exterior views and office layout was attained by long span floors which are used in many existing office high-rises. The use of long floor spans along with the 1968 building code relaxation lowering the fireproofing requirements have apparently created a condition that with large fires in these buildings could lead to total collapse. Long span steel beams have a magnified response to heat. They expand a longer distance than short span beams and they still have their full strength in the beginning of the expansion. NIST computer studies show that this strength while the beam is elongating can shear off the bolts connecting the beams to the columns or girders as the restrained beams expand. This strength can also crack the concrete slab at the shear studs and buckle the beam itself as differential compression builds up during expansion.
A buckled or bowing long span (over 40 feet) beam can impart large tension forces on the connections especially when the deflected beam begins to shrink as it cools. Bowing occurs when the bottom flange of a steel beam expands faster than the top flange. The fireproofing insulation thickness schedules in the Building Code were developed for the short span floors which were used in the older buildings and this insulation defended against weakness in the steel beams rather than expansion which apparently was not a problem in the shorter spans. Steel weakening occurs later at higher temperatures 1100deg. F (about 600 deg. C). Low temperature expansion effects occur earlier as the steel is first heated at temperatures below 400 deg. C and long span expansion effects have not yet been compensated for in the codes. This deficiency in high-rise office buildings using long span flooring systems, is a new discovery uncovered by the study of the collapse of the Twin Towers and Buildings 5 and 7 and was first illuminated by the engineering computer studies.
Another important characteristic of large open areas with combustible furnishings is that a fire can spread over the whole area and release a large quantity of heat if not extinguished immediately as by a working water spray system (sprinkler). The water spray systems in both towers and Building 7 were damaged by the forces of plane impacts and in Building 7 by the tower’s collapse impacts damaging the water mains in the streets.
The other thing about long span floors is that the builders have to relocate or remove the columns to get the open office areas that they wanted in the first place. When an interior column or columns fail under such large open area circumstances the building may not be able to redistribute the floor loads to other columns and the collapse is likely to progress upwards. If the building is not protected against progressive collapse, global (total) collapse can ensue. Building 7 collapsed because one key interior column failed after the long span floors failed around it.
In the beginning, when I first saw this plane crashing into the WTC, I didn’t think anything of the total destruction of the WTC. Why?
As an ironworker for 40 years I’ve connected on buildings, meaning my job was to tie the joints of the steel together, this is followed by other workers to plumb the building up before it is bolted up. Their is a system that we must follow.
To me, the inner core columns of the WTC was too impossible to destruct due to it’s thickness (5 inches) and weighting 60 tons! There we’re a total of 47 inner columns. These columns differed from the perimeter columns, not as thick and weight differed. For these massive columns to destruct in sync is far-fetched.
When one considers all the info and video, one will conclude that it was an inside job, WITHOUT DOUBT!!!!!
Don’t let these con-artist fool you.
Dan Kirby
Yeah…I’m sitting here thinking, why not one poster has stated the obvious…2 new tapes…of the most deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. History…released 7 years after 911….NEW INFORMATION never seen before…if that isn’t THE MOST SIGNIFICANT thing I don’t know what is…Think people!! What does it portend? Why Now? Never turned over to the 911 Commission??
I would have to say it is obvious it is a controlled demolition. There is always the distinct possibility these building were demolished because they had sustained damage and presented a threat to the buildings left surrounding them. I really don’t see why if this was inside job there would be a benefit to taking down a couple other buildings. Why add to the risk of being caught with really no added benefit? I mean its not like after the first two towers went down the event got any added benefit by adding a couple other piddly buildings.
A lot of the recent stuff I’ve tried to put up on the web on 9/11 doesn’t go. It’s probably because it’s scary. Let’s see if this one goes.
If the waters of New York City had become poison that day, Nostradamus would’ve become both an acclaimed prophet of 2001 and the greatest hatemonger who ever lived. More than Hitler.
For those who are mature enough, the truth will become very evident within days of reading this.
they were pros that did that the only mistake they made was they thought they were the chosen people and danced on top of their van while it all unfolded.
building 7 housed the files and evidence pertaining to some real nasty up coming court cases that could not be allowed.
while its true people tend to forget about things after a time,like JFK .
that is because the people have no idea the consequences of letting go and doing nothing.
America has been run by gangsters ever since.
and that is the price you will continue to pay as long as you keep ignoring it.
the sad part of all of this is America whether you accept
it or not is on its last legs and about to have its lights put out forever.
it will be using Canadian Laws and in the North American Union by 2010.
More physical evidence which some CIA PhD can refute. Go to http://www.oilempire.us and read Michael Ruppert’s “Crossing the Rubicon” for rock solid proof (which does not rely on physical evidence) that it was an inside job.
No long winded explanations can not get around the facts. Building 7 was imploded and the investigation needs to underway.
The NIST report did not address the simple fact that high rise buildings cannot fall as fast as gravity
(an object falling from the top of the building hitting the ground at the same time as the last piece of the collapsing structure) without the help of explosives. It will never happen as long as there are laws of physics.
If it was that simple to create a non friction event- in a in a collapsing structual body, there would be a lot of multi-millionaire Amateur demolition contractors out there.
W7 fell like a sack of sand….without friction!
Let’s use our brains not our politics.
Arthur and Jerry, you convieneintly forget Mr. Silverman’s (lease owner of WTC) comment that the incident commander told him that there was “too much damage (WTC 7) already, so we made the decision to pull it” To “pull it” means to demoslish the building. Look it up. The Firemen who described the explosions just before the south tower collapse: “boom,boom,boom!” Contact the good folks at Controlled Demolition Inc. and they will tell you it’s impossible for a building (let alone three) to fall STRAIGHT DOWN just from some structural damage and resulting fires. Finally, look up the stories of the skyscrapers that burned for 17 hours (Spain) and 40 + Hours (Venezuela) and DID NOT collapse from the heat, etc. Use common sense and proper research.
Even if 9/11 was an inside job, Islam is still more evil.
M.Paulman u r the proof that there are still IDIOTS outside.
Some of the videos show Mr. Larry Silverstein (owner of the World trade Center) saying “The fire department commander told me that so many lives had already been lost that we’ll pull it down. They [the fire dept. commander] made that decision to pull the building down.” And that’s straight from the horses mouth. Now we all know demolition of buildings requires time, first to engineer, than to set the charges. It just doesn’t happen the day you decide to demolish a building. This was planned weeks ahead for WTC7 and if so, one would surmise it would be true for all 9/11 events.
9/11 was an inside job and the greatest evidence of this besides the taped confession of silverstein and all of these videos, is the unprecidented pre-trial pay out to the families of those killed.
No time ever in the past has anyone paid out pre-trial any amount of cash to anyone for being innocent.
Now take one step back and LOOK AT WHO is attempting to defend the unproven-uninvestigated crimes of 9/11 and the official lame excuse the booshCo syndicate has puked up. Who has been defending this undefendable position of 19 suicidal muslums, which the FBI has officially stated “they don’t know who these hijackers were”, all had faked ID’s.
There is no doubts to unconnected opinions, 9/11 has been one inside “the gates” job.
These freaks making statements that all the conspirators must be bribed, or killed,,, blah blah,,, never heard an official GAG ORDER was placed on all FAA, Firemen, police etc that had a government paycheck and were also known as first responders. Gag them huh? That meant no first person interviews for the public to hear and then question because we’ve been taught better than they hoped for.
They also don’t know the power of the ‘allmighty’ dollar in a capitalist world. Of course people will commit crime for a buck. They arrest the little people all the time for murder for profit.
Where the hell has been the Grand Jury? Those tasked with the official duty to form these lawful inquiries are guilty by all RICO standards for obstruction of justice.
Can a mock Grand Jury with former officials that held certain Grand Jury procurment positions take place to open some blinded eyes? Jesse V., along with Vinnie B., can assemble this mock Grand Jury, in an official capacity. Hey if retired former judges can come out of retirement to make real official findings, why not former/retired executive officie holders do the same?
Now consider this,,, if it was commonly deemed a good thing to get hitler at any cost to save innocent blood…..
Act for a lawful investigation without restriction or be told forever.
If you think the job was too complex for Mossad to go in and rigg the building for demo, ground the U.S. Air Force and on and on and on….
How plausible is it to imagine a bunch of arabs put it together?
Note the windows on the end or the width side didn’t blow out… No charges planted on the ends?
To anyone asking where MILLIONS of dollars of “hush” money may have come from to pull this off, realize that ONE DAY before 911, CNN had the administration on tv pointing out they “lost” 2.3 TRILLION dollars somewhere in the military record-keeping lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo
there is a longer video of wtc7 collapsing…you can see large section fall off the farr side of the building mintes before the actual collapse, so it wasn’t actually 1 neat
collapse.
http://www.webcitation.org/5aVFJBo2R
“everyone keeps saying the wars were for oil. Wouldn’t it have been cheaper to just purchase tho oil from them?”
it’s not about taking the oil. it’s about CONTROLLING the oil. if we just bought it, all those damn arabs and russia etc would get RICH. but the key point of controlling it is that then we can manipulate the price to bankrupt countries that we CANT take the oil from, like russia, or venezuela. right now russia is getting pissed that we can keep them poor. it’s all part of our plan for world empire. USA USA
If 1 building was a conspiracy then ALL are a conspiracy. And the Pentagon story has been proved to be a lie by video testimony from numerous witnesses including 2 cops contradicting the official flight path theory (meaning toppled lamposts were “blown”). Ergo; if Pentagon = Lie, then WTCB7 = Lie. Case closed.
And as to “why” we don’t just buy oil, not even addressing the control factor of it, it was done to instill fear, to look tough so no one else might decide to try and trade in Euro instead of Dollar. (For whatever currency it’s traded in, the owners can control the tax on it!)
This very old link describes it perfectly:
http://www.energybulletin.net/node/12125
Too bad these guys seem to be losing:
http://www.etherzone.com/2007/lebo120507.shtml
And as to “why” we don’t just buy oil, not even addressing the control factor of it, it was done to instill fear, to look tough so no one else might decide to try and trade in Euro instead of Dollar. (For whatever currency it’s traded in, the owners can control the tax on it!)
This very old link describes it perfectly:
energybulletin.net/node/12125
Too bad these guys seem to be losing:
etherzone.com/2007/lebo120507.shtml
“while its true people tend to forget about things after a time,like JFK .
that is because the people have no idea the consequences of letting go and doing nothing.
America has been run by gangsters ever since.
and that is the price you will continue to pay as long as you keep ignoring it.”
I believe that after the Nazi propaganda that was the Lindbergh trial, the powers that be put pressure on both the Jewish and Italian crime families to create an anti-Axis national crime syndicate.
Remember, Charles Lindbergh was the son of a far right wing senator from Minnesota and there was only one way he’d take the Bruno Hauptmann story. While he did not become an American Fuhrer as the Talmudic set had plotted, he did act as a spokesperson for the Nazis just before the war.
911 definitly an inside job too many thing don’t add up
let’s get to the present missing missle. Obama was only elected nov 7 he will be ignogurated (become president)jan21 09 I am very worried what can happen from now to that date theres is no limit to what the present administration of crooke evil inhuman pieces of shit will do to stay in power don’t forget the act that state that homeland security become the only branch of government that rules in an event of major desaster (Martial law)
Lol thanks for the entertainment. A little tip… Don’t quit your day job
the next time a high-rise catches fire, you better run ’cause it will now collapse according to the new Cheney physics calculations.
I am a professional engineer, and forensics investigator. I also worked as an ironworker connector and bolt–up construction hand.
Forming a hypothesis is one step in the use of the scientific method. I am first presenting a hypothesis for the mechanism that I am observing in the video.
I am giving my best hypothesis based on just inspection. Some type of energy source heated the water in the concrete [all set concrete contains water chemically reacted bound water]. The steel reinforcing, trusses, and 4″ of concrete were designed to be an integral part of the floor system. When the concrete in the floor system turned to powder then it converted from dead weight to load but even this added load was not enough for an individual floor to collapse since the floor steel truss system is designed to support the weight of wet concrete during the “pour”.
Logically, something had to also affect the steel trusses in the floor system. Because of the built in safety factors combined with the cured strength of the cured concrete, the failure and collapsed weight of only one floor upon another floor WOULD NOT start a “domino” type pan caking event.
HYPOTHESIS:
1) Some energy prime mover heated the bound water in the cement and/ or the reinforcing steel in the cement floor to cause the “powdering” of the concrete. Powdering of concrete by conventional explosives is explained in military demolition manuals.
2) The floor system steel began to destructively react to the energy but not as quickly as the cement.
3) After the floor system loses its beam strength, the floor system begins to bow which applies tension [pulls] on the bolted connections at the core columns.
4) The core columns were closest to the energy prime mover but were extremely thick. They disintegrated at a much slower rate since there was just more material to disintegrate although the more dense material available the more the tendency to absorb energy.
5) Although the core columns are still standing they are being heated [extremely] by the energy source and the bolted connections from the core columns to the steel trusses are stressed. By inspection of the video it appears that the bolted connections may have simply spalled [peeled] off from the destructive energy. How the connections failed is not important. The steel was disintegrating and the building was coming down one way or the other.
6) The outer columns also began to react to the energy prime mover but at a slower rate than the floor beams because they were thicker and further away from the energy prime mover and they would be affected inversely proportional to the distance from the energy prime mover.
CHRONOLOGY [Think fast]
a) First the cement turns to powder and becomes simply “ load” instead of “dead load” supporting material.
b) The floor system begins to bow, applying tension [pulling] on the bolted connections at the core columns.
c) The floor systems collapse symmetrically inside the box of outer columns
d) The core columns are being heated by the energy source and the connections of the core columns to the floor trusses begin to fail.
e) The outer columns retain some strength and form a “box” to contain the demolished floors inside the “box”.
f) The core structure remains standing even after the collapse until the columns eventually vaporize.
This hypothetical method of demolition would not have involved a lot of people only the use of a powerful energy prime mover.
The breaking windows on the collapse of Building 7 suggests that the support from the center column was removed on the same wall as the windows.
I am an engineer but no expert on controlled demolition but I have seen the documentaries. The first columns to be cut are the center columns which have cables connecting them to the outer columns in order to “pull” the outer columns inward. I was actually surprised when I saw the documentary. It is not that big a mystery how they collapse buildings in their footprint. They have simple cables to ensure this not just the exact placement of explosives.
If Building 7 was not controlled demolition then I would think that the collapse would be studied to determine how building demolition experts can use this mechanism of spontaneous symetrical collapse so that the expense of explosives, labor, and time could be avoided in the future.
And now you’ve got Obama! Oi vey with a schmay already.
While I believe that it was an inside job, not a government job, but someone the likes of the underbelly of Blackwater, etc, I’m a bit skeptical of the footage.
I work in the Entertainment Industry and must say that the angle of the camera and the fact that the “camera operator” just happened to be standing in the right place at the right time is fine. My skepticism stems from the fact the the camera op knew theses things:
-exactly when to pull out of the tight shot just before the building explodes. This pull out naturally leads your eye to the explosions of the windows.
-As the north tower falls, the camera op knows exactly where to pan up and down to see the inside part of the building with a zoom on it.
Again with all the confusion, the camera work pin points to exact features. This could be only three scenarios:
1. complete luck
2. taken from an insider that knew when the building was going to be “pulled”
3. done afterward in a software such as After Effects, Shake, Cinema 4D
If you doubt the last option, just check out After Effects Tutorials on YouTube. There’s almost nothing that can’t be accomplished with today’s consumer/prosumer software.
I’m just saying….
I’m still encountering people on a regular basis who have no idea Bldg 7 also came down. It’s always Twin Towers this, Twin Towers that…
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Project BlueBeam for the building collapses and control of the Iraqi stargate (jumproom) not oil as to the why of the war.
Four planes, five events, 2 plane crashes recorded on video, the other crash sites contained no plane wreckage. The 747 that went down over Scotland left a lot of wreckage and a big hole in the ground. There was no appreciable wreckage at Shanksville or at the Pentagon. Eventhough aluminium will burn big plane crashes always result in significant plane sections remaining.
There is a lot of conclusive photographic and video evidence on the internet. Search 911 seismic & 911 thermal image & 911 WTC-6 & 911 BBC WTC-7 for further reading.
WTC-7 fell in its footprint with all the appearances of a controlled demolition. When the twin towers went down the construction materials were hurled sideways by some considerable force. This force was significantly greater than the normal cutter charge forces used in controlled demolitions. If a controlled demolition made such a mess the process could not be used with safety.
Questions will always remain about 911. Very few readers appreciate that WTC-7 went down on the day and that WTC-6 had a number a circular holes in its roof and was also effectively demolished.
When you look at the stock market charts for the period it appears the market was readied for the event starting almost 2 months prior to 911. My daily charts started to show strange moves which ultimately culminated on 911.
The darker side of 911 is that the military is now operating in foreign lands attempting to change cultures and religous beliefs they do not understand. It is difficult to forcast any reasonable outcome, certainly not in the timeframe that the military must operate in.
This is not new , only noobies to 9/11 truth would be unaware of the sqibs travelling up WTC7 as the building falls. This particular video is new but there are others that show this including sqibs moving up the side wall on the right side of these very obvious sqibs . In another vid I can’t find at the moment it was a 20 minute video on demolition you can see sqibs on the left side of the front face of the building. Unfortunately I had a monster pc crash and lost all my data and links to this and many other similar articles. I’m sure some one will know the vid I refer to and post a link.
Hey Techknowman: Do you honestly think those poor goat herders did all that?
When I first saw those buildings fall, my first thought was, DEMOLITION.
I believed then as I do now, that it was an inside job after the initial shock wore off.
Those two towers were over built to handle multiple impacts by jets. They were two of the strongest structures built on the face of the earth..
There was no way a simple jet airliner took them down with their burning aviation fuel.
I still remember to this day when I heard the order to Pull it. How can a building be declared unsafe in one day and ordered it to be Pulled or demolished? It takes months to prepare a building for that kind of destruction.
No Arab or sheep herder had anything to do with it.
It was and inside job and most likely done by the CIA and MOSSAD like someone here mentioned earlier.
The CIA has access to that kind of high tech weaponry such as space based lasers and charged particle beams.
Of course it was an inside job…….anyone with a brain can see it…..only those who are truly brainwashed cannot. And I have read a few comments from some of them here. Humans are so naive. We believe anything we are told because we are too lazy to go and check out the facts for ourselves. If someone in “power” tells us something, we just believe it, even though our gut is SCREAMING out that they are full of shit. We deny our instincts and convince ourselves that the government would never lie or do anything wrong to us. LOL. Ya right. That is ALL they do! Lie, steal, cheat, kill…..its always been that way and it will always be that way. So enjoy.
well.i watched ,in shock for days after waking at 9am to see the events unfolding.i never knew about building 7 for a long time after as well.this happened in the 5pm hour?
thats odd.8 hours after the main events.plenty of time to secure the area,so no extra death is needed.good thing the dessert monkeys didnt know that the building would be less busy in the 9am hour.there could have been significANTLY larger death tolls say at 11am.or 4 pm.
another thing i did happen to notice was sometime in day two ..they were able to get crews in ,to rescue the tons of gold that was in the vaults beneath WTC.they showed this on one of the stations i witnessed ,but never saw or heard another mention of it .
the reason most people cant get behind these theories is that most people,american people are good.we arent capable of thinking that anyone could be this evil.not one of us .
they can ,however grasp the pure evil of hitler,stalin,sadam,but not our guys ..right??
heads should roll.
I don’t know about faking this video. Even government resources couldn’t fake the Osama tapes very well. Of course he has had seven years but they would take a lot of work with a lot of motivation. Interesting that there is no sound. Not having to incorporate sound would make faking a video easier. There may be something in the sound that would point to the camerman. Sound may not be incorporated simply because the video is slowed down 50%. There is nothing you can do to distort sound that cannot be undone. He is obviously not trying to make any money. Released right around the election? My gut feeling is that they are legitimate. Let’s get the real 911 investigators on this and analyze frame by frame. This may be the smoking gun for the twin towers even if not for Building #7.
looks fake to me.
Thanks JJ. You are truly your brother’s keeper and a finder of lost children.
If you look really closely at the video’s “new angles,” you should see what I call rainbow stretching. (Your Red/Green/Blue coordination has burst through its sausage skin.) That also happens when you take photos from a video with weak resolution and try to make them presentable.
Why would anybody do that to the 9/11 videos? In a date, February 17, 2009. That’s when the average American Joe will have to own a high definition TV set.
http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html
The squibs that our resident demolition expert pointed out a few posts back are so much clearer than in 2001-ish technology that’s it’s now undeniable. The only hope the hucksters have is to try and make the fraudulent “new” angles make the whole thing look fraudulent.
chaircaner, I would like to hear more about the stargate.
How much do you know? How did you find out about it? Who found it? Where did they find it? When did they find it? Are they using it?
email me directly: jerrywickey@comcast.net
Jerry
Jesse, I addressed WTC7 in my post.
It was a conspiracy…. by fanatical Islamic terrorists no one else. They had planned on using the jet fuel but I suspect the results were tragically far more spectacular than even they hoped.
They got “lucky” and to add insult to injury, many in our own government seized on the fear to pass many laws which unnecessarily limit our freedoms.
Normal demolitions to my knowledge dont as a rule reduce everything to dust. I believe that maybe a satelite weapon was used to bring the buildings down.
Fires were probably started by thermate to give the illusion that a plane had caused the fires. There was a lot of secret Mossad/USA files etc in those buldings.
There was a special bomb invented in the 50s which would suck all the moisture from whatever materials, concrete, steel etc and cause it to literally turn to dust.
maybe this is what was used as well.
To Brad,
While your point is logical and well reasoned, the way these evil bastards think is more along the lines of what they call “tactical vs. strategic”.
Tactically it makes sense to just purchase the oil but Strategically they can dominate and control by owning the oil themselves and also controlling supply in relation to demand.
It’s a sociopath’s point of view that the average person doesn’t normally access.
Good reasoning reaverto.
If Brad needs a more concrete argument consider that around Gull Island, Prudhoe Bay in Alaska is as much oil & gas as Saudi Arabia. So why don’t they just tap that?
Because the official strategy is control, not energy. And the policy is : “Use Their’s First”.
30 years from now it’s the Arabs, Euros, et.al. begging for energy… and the price will be very, very high.
Metal expansion pure and simple.
Core column #79 was it!
No doubt NIST is an independent and reliable group of engineers!
Zito on 11.04.08 at 1:42 am: “I hope someone is able to pinpoint exactly where this footage was taken from”
I did some homework with google maps, and Apparently it was at the intersection of Warren and North End streets. Judging from the railing which was probably on the building top and the traffic islands that can be seen below on the video, it was probably taken from the top of the high school building.
http://mosnas2.blogspot.com/2008/11/apparently-taken-from-top-of-building.html
Well, it looks like Arthur Scheuerman, or his JREF friends found the new video. Arthur wrote only the first paragraph, the rest is copy paste from his comments all over the internet. The supporters of the official government story are obviously concerned about this video, just as they are concerned about articals and videos about melted steel and concrete fused together. There is a whole lot going on in this video and there is an obvious explosion cloud at the penthouse, that Arthur says collapsed from the displacement of a single upright and due to the pull of gravity. Is there anyone looking at this video that can’t notice the obvious explosive forces that blew out these windows?
BTW, I agree that this video has been edited but, in watching both WTC7 and WTC1, all of the content was taken from the same location. So the anonymous poster has the original video somewhere, and that is the one that is needed for (I hope) n investigation…G:
Maybe only ten percent of these postings are about the subject, the videos, and the remainder of the postings are just ranting, raving, and preaching to the choir.
To #70 Cajun Daddy, What would you expect in an open forum comment area where the obvious is hardly woth speaking about and more data is delivered.
I myself started out with the best confession out there from silversteins own mouth. The subject was the building which is how the entire portion of the interview was leading to, you know, a punch line. It refers to the subject of the interview, the building, period, end of that debate and record his confessions.
You know form this confession, there must be pre planted demolition devices in place for that option to be considered, and they did. It was his own words that first mentioned “pull it”, and they made the decision… where is the normal criminal Grand Jury in this nation? Are they all having a hard time finding qualified Jurors? Thats right RICO, the ones tasked to procure a Grand Jury are in on the crimes of the inside job crew. The first one was more concerned with a breast made of stone than any type of investigations.
We have our WTC7 confession, lets find other suspects to add.
MeatwadGetsit, I agree that there is no more rule of law but aren’t you the least bit curious about how exactly did they dropped the twin towers? I am saying that this video should cause us to revisit the towers also not just be distracted by building 7 and Silversteins comment.
I am not a building 7 researcher but doesn’t the video show that a center column failed first and not a corner column (#79) as in the NIST report
http://www.webcitation.org/5aVFJBo2R
I may be wrong. I don’t know how to orient the video with the column diagram on the above website. Somebody critique me.
If I were them, I would have maximized this event. I would experiment with all my new toys since you don’t get the opportunity to do a full scale test every day. I can hear the discussion now.
“Let’s try the new star wars beam weapon.”
“But its untested and we can’t be sure that it will do the job.”
“Okay, then for a backup plan we use a nucleur device because after the shock and awe spectacle we have just got to drop those buildings for our plan have the desired effect.”
“Okay, but let’s use some conventional explosives also just to be sure and put some thermite too.”
“Allright gentlemen, its agreed, LET’S ROLL.”
As for the towers, it could have been any number of triggers.
After seeing the helicopter dropping something(s) onto the roof of one tower just seconds before it collapses, I though maybe they had pressure activated demolitions that failed to go when the plane inpacted. I think they failed to take into the calcs, the fact the plane just knocked a big hole i nthe side where the pressure could disipate instead of being confined/concentrated in the core area.
There are many possibilities, none of which are explained by the official non-investigation. This is my biggest contention, only the guilty avoid the cops questions as the booshCo syndicate has.
I’m personally not going down any mini-nuk roads but it would not surprise me. The Bali blast comes to mind as another false flag attack with possible mini-nuk tones.
“Lets roll”,,, seems nobody calls mom and says, “Hi mom, this is your son -enter full formal name here-, you believe me right mom.”
MeatwadGetsIt quit worrying about Bush. He certainly did not have the brains to do this although he certainly knew about it before
Suit case and probably brief case mini nukes exist. Slightly larger ones are called ‘dial a yield’. They can set them for how many kilotons [not megatons] they wish. They are lighter and launched from fighter planes.
Hell, why does it even have to be mini nuke. Bring a big one inside a dump truck. Nukes are no longer “dirty”. But my guess is that it was placed inside the core somewhere near the basement. They may not have placed it in the basement. It may have been placed higher up to prevent damage to the “bathtub” and flooding Manhatten. I would say it was placed above the so called “spires” [Non vaporized core steel]. I remember reading about a big iron press in a machine shop somewhere in the basement that just disappeared.
The more I think about it the more plausible it seems. A nuke with the fuse lit in a confined space. They probably had calculations from the underground testing. I will even take back some kind of sophisticaed EMP directional microwave. It was just a plain nuke generating tremendous heat in a confined chimney [the core].
The core was gone before the building even started falling. There are welded on clips with holes that are used to bolt the floor beams to the core columns. The bolts didn’t sheer because of expansion by the fire as explained by a government stooge. The steel in the core was sublimating [vaporizing] and the clips with the bolts to the floor beam simply “rotted” off.
I thought that I heard timed explosions in one video aired by mistake by a networt but that was probably the concrete floors exploding releasing the subsequent squibs. Look at the squibs in scale with the building. Those “squibs” are huge.
Being an engineer I just instintively know that they had some type of instruments to study this event.
The timing of the impact of whatever with the building and the collapse was probably off because there was a delay in the effect of the nuke. They may have underestimated the strenght of the building or the mass. The core steel was probably sublimating but the building did not fall immediately.
The floors did not pancake, they disintegrated from the bottom up if the nuke was placed in the basement.
Building #6 had the big hole to the top because there was just too much nuke. They either miscalculated or they could turn the yield down low enough.
Can you imagine being trapped inside a building being deliberately demolished by a nuke!
Now think about this. Nukes would not have required much logistics or the involvement of many people so anyone with nukes and access could have done it.
Who has nukes and access? Only two countries and only one has a good reason for nuking the US.
You refuse to believe that your own government and military would nuke its own country and you may actually be right. Is our government and military being blackmailed because there are nukes placed strategically in the US. Kinda makes ballistic missles obsolete. But this wild theory does not explain the planes, “no planes”, missles, holograms, missles with holographic wings that supposedly impacted the building.
Oh well, I don’t have to worry about the black Suburbans showing up at my home. They will just send the guys in white coats.
Hey guys, take a look at the following link. Some very interesting info on Star wars weapons beams etc.
Also pictures of vehicles that were damaged on 9/11 7 blocks away.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html
Cajun said “MeatwadGetsIt quit worrying about Bush. He certainly did not have the brains to do this although he certainly knew about it before”
Hense my use of “BooshCo”,, get it?
The nuk story is fasinating SciFi. I say that,,, do you know of ANY police dog trained to sniff out nuks?
At least you don’t buy the lies they attempted to pass off as truth.
I don’t have a problem believing that our own government treats its citizens as if we were disposable capital resources. That is the nature of government. Our founding fathers made a very good effort to prevent such perversions of justice but when a people do not understand the relationship between government and the people, they allow those freedoms to erode, as we have today.
No good government can come from people who do not understand politics. And no bad government can stand in the face of smart people who do understand. Our freedoms are eroded by our own ignorance of politics. No governmental conspiracy is needed.
I understand the temptation to believe complex conspiracy involvement in a world changing event such as the destruction of the World Trade Center. I read about all the possible errors in calculations the conspiracy might have made, all the people in the news media and the building maintenance staff and the investigative staff that would have needed to be “in the know.” They would have had to have been bribed or gagged or something.
If a government already has enough power to keep something this big quite, why bother? It has already won.
Watch the video of the Twin Towers collapse. The collapse in both buildings begins at the floor the planes hit. Clearly if there was any explosives involved, they would have had to be planted at that floor which the planes hit, in both buildings.
How could the conspirators know which floors the pilots were going to be able to hit?
If the conspirators pilots were that good, then wouldn’t it have been much easier to deliver the explosives with the airplanes themselves? Why plant anything in the building?
If the conspirators have that much control, wouldn’t it have been far easier to simply deliver a large “commercial ” “air-conditioning unit” ” into the basement? After that explodes, blame the bomb on whom ever they wanted then there is no video evidence of airplanes, squibs, timing discrepancies, no investigative commission to bribe, no explosive engineering firm to hire. Nothing. Simple. Straight forward. That is what a conspiracy would have done. Not complicated timing, hiring suicide pilots, planting explosives under the noses of building maintenance or hiring the whole building maintenance staff to do it. Killing them afterwards by tricking them to remain in the building. etc. etc.
If it was a conspiracy why complicate the mission? Why not do it as simply as possible? Unless of course, it was a conspiracy of only a small fanatic Islamic activist group who found that the easiest access for them was to hijack commercial airliners and hope the explosion was enough to make a statement.
Jerry
The people who try to send this dumb a*s story into the world that bush tried to pull this off are either terrorists, socialists,clowns or cowards. If not, they drive a oil hungry car around town every day.
Hypocrytes. Start checking on a good deal for a camel.
Bin Laden has a spare camel, since his son is seeking asylum in the west.
These anti bush clowns didn’t lose a nite of sleep when people in Iraq were tortured by the dictator of that country. Cowards. How many years did this piece of waste get the change to torture the people of his country ?? More than 8 years I count. Since he really got to make up his own rules.
re jerry wickeys last essay .very well done with one glaring omission.what about building seven?
back to work on new theories.
Bryan,
Put it together, If it would have been easier to destroy the Twin towers with a scheduled shipment of explosives disguised as an air conditioning unit, then it would have been done that way. Not a far more complicated method fraught with multiple obstacles and public exposure possibilities.
So, if it was actually air planes and the fuel which ended up being more devastating than even the terrorists thought, Building 7 was probably “pulled” by strapping a 40 ton steel cable around one of the most accessible columns and yanking on it with a bulldozer so that the badly damaged building didn’t come down a little later at an unexpected time and hurt more people.
I am sure the question is addressed. This new footage certainly doesn’t suggest anything different.
Perhaps everything is as I suggest but building 7 was the true target of the conspirators. Perhaps they planted explosives all over building 7 then waited until some random act of terrorism then hours later detonated just one of the sets of explosives they planted. Does that even make sense?
Try planning the whole thing out. Think like the conspirators. Plan every step. Then you will see just how difficult it would have been to get planes to fly into the floors where you planted explosives. And why it is far more likely to have happened just like the investigators report.
If you can’t write down a step by step plan, then you really aren’t qualified to comment on it anyway. If you can write down a step by step plan and think it would work, post it. I will look it over and find the problems with it.
Jerry
Nukes are SciFi? Then Hiroshima was just a Ray Bradberry story?
Hey earth to everybody. I am still curious as to what happened to those 4″ thick flange steel core columns that we see sublimating [vaporizing] in the video? I don’t think that it was jet fuel, but what do I know.
But now I just realized why the “spires” remained standing. The columns were all thicker at the bottom than at the top so not all the steel sublimated in the thicker bottom portion. Still wondering at what elevation they placed that nuke.
If it wasn’t a nuke then what? Magic terrorist dust? Oh darn, why didn’t the civil engineers just construct those core columns out of terrorist passports? EVERYONE knows that a terrorist passport can survive 500 mph collisions, fire and explosions.
As for building #7. They blew out the whole side of the Murrah buidling including columns and beams and still had to bring it down later with what, yes controlled demolition. I guess they could not find a 40 ton cable(#80) to strap around it and they had months to find one. The architect of the Murrah building actually wanted to repair the Murrah building and put it back into use.
If building 7 required such a thing as a 40 ton cable and and a “handy” bulldozer actually capable of “pulling” it to bring it down then building #7 must have been pretty stable don’t you think?
Jerry, The terrorists AKA CIA/MOSSAD could have easily targeted those buildings by flying the planes into specific target through remote controlling the aircraft.
as for the buildings coming down - when demolition experts get up ther on CNN FOX etc and say they were not controlled demolitions, either they are flat out lying or they dont dont what method was used outside their conventional methods. Something else was used - something far more sophisticated than the usual demolition. My intuition has told me that from the start.
The terroists run our Governments and our Countries.
Jerry said “Then you will see just how difficult it would have been to get planes to fly into the floors where you planted explosives. And why it is far more likely to have happened just like the investigators report.”
You know not much about aviation and vector signals.
The flights were the easy part of the plan. Now why send a small group to “document the event” from foriegn lands if it was a small band of “suicidal” islamics? Shock and awe moments for the viewing public maybe.
The biggest clues as to who is responsible,,, look to the obstruction of justice and all the unprecidented events surrounding the legal procedures that were not followed. Hey, resembling the 1993 bombing of the WTC, the cast at least. You do KNOW the 1993 bomb was an FBI operation, if you don’t, get educated and look how all those players have been promoted into, like the USAG position!!!
Where is the grand jury, why setup a “commission” that is full of questionable loyalties. Gate keepers do these things, not investigators.
Cajun daddy, MINI nuks are the scifi part. I’m not totally discounting them, it just seems very unlikely when you look to the J.Wood that promotes this nuk-theory angle.
She has some great photos at her web site, but some of her descriptions leave a lot to fantasyland.
When looking at the crimes, look at the whole and keep the whole in mind when you get into the details.
Zionist plots have been false flag events for how long now. Keep repeating the mantra, “islamofacist islamofacist islamofacist…”
annjie,
If remotely controlling jet airliners was that easy and accurate to put a jet into a building at the exact pre-planned floor that explosives had already been planted, if that technology were already available and installed on jets, then jets would never crash anymore. They could always land them perfectly.
What about the pilots? When they saw the auto pilot light come on, did they just look at each other and say, “Well joe, I guess we can’t do anything anymore. Might as well just strap in for the ride, since not one of these buttons will stop this.”
Meatwadgetsit,
Apparently, I do know more about jet airliners that you do. It is not so simple as you imagine to remotely control a jet airliner. Scientists and engineers are all attempting such technology right now. No one has been able to do it, let alone a bunch of conspirators who know only politics.
Do you guys see what I mean? No one can come up with a step by step plan that brings the whole thing off just like we saw in all the tapes. Conspirators would have had to plan and accomplish so many things successfully that it just wasn’t possible. Neither Meatwadgetsit or annjie was willing to spell out the whole plan.
Suicide pilots, engineering explosives, rigging the building to begin its collapse at the exact floor the planes hit but not right away, instead hours later, bribing building maintenance staff, bribing investigators….. So much easier to just skip all that and deliver a large “air-conditioning unit” filled with government grade high explosives to the basement in a large truck. Then blame the explosion and bomb on anyone they wanted.
If it was a western or Israeli conspiracy with enough power to gain access to the building’s maintenance, that is how they would have done it, not remote control airplanes and carefully planted explosives.
Why did they need airplanes? and planted explosives? and why did they need to start the “demolition” at the exact floor the planes hit? How did they get the planes to be that accurate?
Anyone still want to post a step by step plan?
I guess not.
Jerry
annjie:
You’re on the right track . Dr. Judy Wood has a lot of information on her site, and is a dedicated investigator on this subject. We all know that the official story that is promoted by our corporate government is false. Arthur Scheuerman, who has commented (above #21) on this post, is promoting the official story by quoting his book “Fire in the Skyscraper” and his paper on WTC7 called “The Collapse of Building 7″.
http://mosnas2.blogspot.com/2008/04/arthur-scheuerman-discusses-wtc7.html
Rather than trying to come up with a theory about how it happened, I believe that the best thing we can do is to find all the evidence that hasn’t been carted off, destroyed, or bought off, to preserve for examination in an open and independent investigation. Did you know that every steel beam and column, the ones that were carted off, was numbered as to where it was and in which building?
Try looking at those videos of the towers falling again and see the tremendous release of energy in an upward explosion. Also the expulsion of material as far as a city block or more and if you watch closely you will see concrete and steel vaporizing before it reaches the ground.
There is video from the basement of WTC2 showing that the concrete floors were intact and that there was merchandise in some of the shops on the main concourse still on the shelves in good condition. All of the floors above that were turned to dust, but the official story says that the collapse was caused by gravity and that the momentum of the collapsing floors gained speed and energy that wouldn’t have dissipated until hitting bed rock.
Now we are getting somewhere. Everybody has blown off steam.
MeatwadGetsIt
Mininukes ARE NOT scifi. They are actually the fission portion that sets off a megaton fusion bomb. They have been refined over the years.
But forget mini nukes. I could have been what is called a “dial a yield” nuke that is delivered with a fighter plane. They actually dial in the amount of kilotons of TNT equivalent.
geezerpower
I worked as an ironworker and you are correct. The steel is numbered and corresponds to the numbers on the drawing. You could reassemble what remains like a dynosaur in a museum.
I have not seen the videos of the lower floors. I will guess that the nuke was placed on the 10th floor thus the remaining “spires”. They did not want to destory the bathtub and flood lower Manhattan so somebody had some loyalty to Manhattan.
Jerry Wickey
You are correct. You cannot remotely fly an airplane that is not designed to be remote controlled, that accurately. I am no expert but took at least one college course to know that the “feed back loop” would prevent that. In other words when the plane vered to the right and the remote control tried to correct it would go too far to the left. I think the second “plane” came in on a bank. Maybe on a straight run remote control would be feasible giving the computer enough time to “learn” and straighten itself out. A missle on the other hand is built to control itself and is nimble enough for the electronics to recognize a small change in direction and redirect and overcome the shifting mass.
Dr. Judy Wood has done a tremendous job assembling the information and originating a hypothesis that may just need to be refined.
Jerry Wickey. This is my step by step chronology of the collapse. It is not perfect but it is a starting point.
a) Something simulates an impact of the buildings with planes for shock and awe. It may have been airplanes,” no planes”, missiles, missiles with holographic wings, etc. but the shock and awe spectacle WAS NOT consequential to the actual destruction of the buildings.
b) A small nuke[probably ‘dial a yield’ in the kiloton range] is activated after assurance that the shock and awe spectacle has taken place. The nuke was probably placed somewhere around the 10th floor.
c) Time passes for the small kiloton nuke to do its work. There is a great mass of building to heat up. Since this is a somewhat untested system the “button” could not be pushed until it was sure that the shock and awe spectacle was complete.
d) First the cement turns to powder [explodes] and becomes simply “dead load” instead of just “load bearing weight” supporting material.
e) The core columns are being heated by the energy source and the connections of the core columns to the floor trusses begin to fail. The fireproofing and sheetrock surrounding the core makes matters worse by preventing the building heat in the core from escaping. The fireproofing system now becomes an insulator containing the heat and working the reverse of its designer’s intention since the heat is now on the inside and not the outside.
f) The floor system begins to bow, applying tension [pulling] on the bolted connections at the core columns. The core columns are now experiencing tremendous heat and are sublimating. They are going directly from the solid phase to the gas phase without going through the liquid phase. This is the process of dry ice. This sublimating of the core is hidden from view until the rest of the building collapses around the core.
g) The core was almost gone before the exterior of the building even started falling. There are welded on clips with holes that are used to bolt the floor beams to the core columns. The bolts didn’t sheer because of expansion by the fire as explained by a government stooge. The steel in the core was sublimating [vaporizing] and the clips with the bolts to the floor beam simply “rotted” off.
h) The so called squibs are probably escaping gases from the sublimated steel in the core columns and exploding fire proofing. I thought that I heard timed explosions in one video aired by mistake by a network but that was probably the concrete floors exploding releasing the subsequent squibs. Look at the squibs in scale with the building. Those “squibs” are huge.
i) The molten metal pouring out of the floors is probably steel [not aluminum or thermite] that has not sublimated but instead is going through the liquid phase.
j) The floor systems collapse symmetrically inside the box of outer columns. The floors did not pancake, they disintegrated from the bottom up.
k) The outer columns, being further away from the energy prime mover retain some strength and form a “box” to contain the demolished floors inside the “box”. They would be affected inversely proportional to the distance from the energy prime mover. The façade being non dense aluminum and further away would not be immediately affected.
l) The core structure remains standing even after the collapse until the columns eventually completely sublimate just like dry ice [Is sublimate a better word than vaporize or disappear?] Why did the “spires” remained standing. The columns were all thicker at the bottom than at the top so not all the steel sublimated in the thicker bottom portion. Still wondering at what elevation they placed that nuke.
m) Expelled EXTREMELY HOT material from the twin tower impacts Building 7 and starts fires on several floors although the fires do not contribute to the collapse of Building 7 but that’s another story.
n) Building #6 had the big hole to the top because there was just too much nuke. They either miscalculated or they could not turn the yield down low enough.
o) Can you imagine being trapped inside a building being deliberately demolished by a nuke and actually living to tell about it!
p) This explains why non dense paper was not affected just like a paper plate in a microwave.
p) Now think about this. Nukes would not have required much logistics or the involvement of many people so anyone with access to nukes could do it. Don’t need that many people to haul it in an place in the freight elevator. They were probably real proud of themselves.
If the Islamic terroists did it wouldn’t they have had their own photographers. I friend returning from Iraq said that they film their raids all the time. The Americans have captured some of their video.
Oh by the way, I talked to a mechanic recently returned from Iraq. His statement, “We are in a religious war that we should never have got involved in and we are getting our head handed to us. Don’t believe the media reports.”
I guess if they can mastermind a terrorist attack using their enemy’s own airplanes then they can kick a few ground troops’ butts on their own turf.
This is a really good board. I’m glad I checked the “notify me” box. You know what this board really reminds me of? The subject of UFOs and how that’s treated by the government. For people with high school educations or less, they make it way out there because they’d be scared. For educated people, there’s enough truth there that you know there’s something to it.
Here’s two good reality filters. The US government revealed that evidence linking the “5 dancing Israelis” to 9/11 is classified. That means they’re not ever doing the rap for 9/11. Israel also permitted the revelation that 100,000 Sephardic Jewish children had been subjected to unthinkably horrible radiation experiments in 1951. That just says it all about Jewish white supremists and that means they don’t entirely run Israel.
Eric Vaughan: Don’t forget the TV show broadcast in Israel where one of the 5 was being interviewed in a studio and he said (in hebrew) something like “…how could we have been responsible? We we’re only sent there to watch it happen…” Can’t find the video on YouTube now… appreciate any links to it.
—Don’t forget the TV show broadcast in Israel where one of the 5 was being interviewed in a studio and he said (in hebrew) something like “…how could we have been responsible? We we’re only sent there to watch it happen…” —
I believe that exists. The person saying it must be a total fool though, like those two Jewish Defence League idiots that tried to agitate Muslim unrest in the United States and then were ripped to shreds in prison by the mob in public roadkills.
I don’t think I can tell you the full stories on these incidents, but I knew of one guy who was involved in kiddy sex compromises for a “hostile foreign nation,” LOL. In 2003, “they” killed his aunt and uncle with quick-acting cancer on the first and last day of Passover.
Another woman that had links to that same deal was beautiful in mid 2005. She was 40-ish but she could easily pass for 31. She took care of herself. It was right around then that her family trod through the Treason Valley of Death. She went into a cocaine frenzy in 2006 because she knew something was going down. By April 2006, even her legs, the last things to go, looked like crap. A couple months later, her sister was crucified on the road just after the time stepped forward. Officially it was an accident, but all I have to say is that sure is a lot of mob-linked stuff there.
I believe you that the guy said it, but Israel has the same kind of secret policies we do and that guy should be in hiding for saying Israel committed an act of war against the US. (My guess is that one of his loved one’s fridge has a surprise in it that won’t be discovered until a few coincidences two years later. The tragedy would be public knowledge, too, but not the payback announcement. That’s for the insiders to figure out.)
Eric Vaughan #90
I just searched and read that the US sent the X-Ray machines and paid the Israelis to perform the experiments on the children.
Isn’t anyone going to critique my step by step chronology? How about you Jerry Wickey? I did it partially at your request.
Somebody at least call me a kook, government stooge, or something.
This board must have a higher total IQ than the ones I have abandoned previously.
The people who believe the official story need to wake up. The truth hurts but there is a point when you have to get over it and start telling others about the Conspiracy.
Let’s not forget that many people knew this was going to happen but like most other important issues and events people simply go into denial and refuse to believe the truth.
Alex Jones was on Cable TV in Austin Texas screaming at people on July 25th 2001 telling listeners to call the white house and congress and to tell the people in DC we know what you’re up to. Alex was telling people who they would blame and telling people they would fly planes into the WTC. Search Alex Jones predicts 911 on Youtube.
Alex Jones, along with several others, didn’t know the exact date but figuring out this stuff isn’t that difficult, you just need to stop watching sports, soaps, tv shows, and all the other crap on TV that is taking control of your life. The commercials on TV are loaded with propaganda. It’s sick.
Southsider #94
And don’t forget to quit watching that bully pervert Bill O’Reilley. I am waiting to hear that he told a guest to shut up and the guest finally hauled off and “bitch slapped” O’Reilley.
Everyone of O’Reilley’s loyal watchers that I know [even halfway intelligent] is screwed up in the head like they are on crack. They say contradictory things in the same sentence. Their lives are total crap and they keep swearing how good things have been for the last 8 years.
Jerry said, “Apparently, I do know more about jet airliners that you do. It is not so simple as you imagine to remotely control a jet airliner. Scientists and engineers are all attempting such technology right now. No one has been able to do it, let alone a bunch of conspirators who know only politics.”
But the day of the attacks I was reading web page after web page from gov and technical sites that described the entire “remote recovery systems” built into every 757 on up, and any plane that has it’s nav-comm system upgraded also has this system built in.
Funny all those web pages I bookmarked went bye bye the very next day.
The details for flight are simple with the only real variable being the weather. The planes flight data went over the radio frequency that the transponder uses, so that does explain the transponders going out when they did according to the flight record released.
Also seek out the opinion titled ‘flight of the bumble planes’ or something like that. 737 parts were found, lets get the actual ID of where they came from. HARD evidence is available if a real investigation took place.
Since we have had nothing but official-gov obstruction of justice, everyone pushing the official BS should be tried under RICO type conspiracy standards. We know they lie, why are they still free.
Cajun Daddy said, “Mininukes ARE NOT scifi. They are actually the fission portion that sets off a megaton fusion bomb. They have been refined over the years.”
What I meant was, the WTC use of mini nuks seems sciFi to me, not the actual devices. I’m too used to typing out youtube short handed thoughts I guess.
The small amounts of ‘fall out’ found around WTC after could have come from the emergency exit signs, they are known to be made with radioactive materials.
This is a very odd link on the boss of the 5 Dancing Israelis that this board should find interesting.
http://homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com/2008/11/hes-back-israeli-terrorist-mass.html
In this crazy tale, something tells me the boss is going to do the equivalent of throwing a $10 million-dollar Bat Mitzvah with 50 Cent and Arrowsmith and then he’ll be charged with something other than 9/11 and promptly thrown in jail.
MeatwadGetsIt #97
I agree. The entire 911 story from the government reads like SciFI.
The people that did this are just using their Lucifer given right to make history, literally. This is his world now and his stupid pawns are just setting up his physical arrival. If you call yourself Gods child you’re dead meat. However that dead meat will be transformed into something new that will kick their evil asses! So don’t be scared of death, it’s a rebirth.
i have done over 3 years of investigating on this subject and can tell you that the real terrorist lives in the “white house”! i can only hope that he ends up on trial for high treason, and murdering the people he was supposed to be working for. this was all arranged in a bilderberg meeting, with Larry Silverstein discussing the fact that he was informed by the port authority that he needed to dismantle the entire WTC due to the asbestos content with President Bush! that is when the “dim lightbulb” went off over Bush’s head, and the tragic events unfolded before our eye’s! Both men should be put on trial, found guilty, and end up with rope around their necks for this horrific act! Papa Bush and as much as I hate to say this, so was Mr. Clinton. it was created to change the public opinion to invade Iraq, and the Halliburton group would be the benefactor. this is why Cheney was selected as vice president,, to make damn certain that Bush didn’t have second thoughts of the “plan” to create a modern day “Pearl Harbor”, to anger the masses, and gain approval to invade Iraq. 3 days to destroy Iraq’s military, and 7 years fighting sandal wearing street thugs! yeah, that makes sense, don’t it? we must not allow these punks to get away with killing American citizens! they NEVER worked for us,,, they work for the FED and the Bilderberg Group!
I think this was the best 9/11 board of them all for thinking and I’d like to thank all involved for their contributions. While I do not have a degree in engineering, here’s what I think is the most plausible explanation for what happened on 9/11 behind the scenes.
Israel’s far right believed that the US government had plans to deal with Jews in the event of a large economic chaos. In ruining their lives, they wanted to corral all of those who couldn’t get out of being Jewish in the NATO nations and that’s why they used the “5 dancing Israelis.” (Their intel may have even been a document from Nixon era, who knows.)
Another fact that would tend to support this is the bizarre deviant propaganda we were subjected to when the American troops were just outside of Baghdad. (That’s when WMDs would’ve been used if they were available.) A man in white with an Osama bin Laden fetish had been arrested for holding Elizabeth Smart in a cave. Cute-as-a-button Jessica Lynch and a bunch of other American servicewomen were ambushed way out of the line of fire and raped.
Whatever set that up wasn’t privvy to the fact that Iraq had no WMDs and they needlessly supplied “anti-hun” propaganda to the US at that time.
I do know this though. America’s powers that be did not want 9/11. In the election that followed, they let the terrorists know that no matter what you do, America will have a Skull and Bones Society President. For all we know, they’re that group’s version of Hell’s Angels’ Filthy Few, those who have killed. (They meet by Geronimo’s skull so there’s a hint there.)
What happened in New Orleans just after Katrina was the un-9/11. Everything 9/11 tried to sell was peeled at by that incident. That incident and the games played with the true stories helped pushed Barack Hussein Obama into the White House. Think about that name. America’s powers that be not only let a black President happen, they let one in with an anti-9/11 name in.
I even wonder if the economic collapse with the judicial-inc. biz theme is part of a plan to deal with those still nutty enough to keep looking for that Great Pumpkin in all of this.
Hydrogen bombs versus themite.
Anybody still listening? I found this by accident while researching what atomic bombs do to steel.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/H-device.htm
Mini-hydrogen bombs. Any idea what is the difference of tritium and plutonium?
They create radiation, but far less (1/100) than plutonium bombs. And of different
type. The problem is, you cannot measure it without very expensive instruments.
In the first minutes at ground zero, there are hundreds of different short-lived
radioactive particles. Take a deep breath and you will propably die. Neutrons
did their damage, but they are not showing any longer. Later on, alpha and tritium
particles exist, but they are not easy to reveal. Again, some sniffing like the dogs did
and many will get internal lung damage (not always fatal, but damage anyway). Water
spraying is a good way to speed up the evaporation of these light, radioactive
elements. And that’s what they used. Elevated tritium values were found in three
places at the WTC area. Five days later. Some unexpected Beta readings also have
been measured. Guess why they are not telling, what was found earlier, say 9/13?
I agree the missing nuke from the Minot airbase B52 incident will blow up in a city in America as the new 9/11 they keep promising. Everyone is still complacently asleep. Shocking how even those loosing their entire retirements in the market crash still have this ho-hum attitude. They must be spraying some stupid serum in those chemtrails.
Oh my god. many of the posts here read like notes passed in a junior high school detention room. Listen. None of you have done better than state an argument from incredulity. You re-state child like Internet memes like “Arabs in caves” . Did you know these same Arabs were responsible for the ousting of the soviet army from Afghanistan? the same Russian superpower that frightened Americans built bomb shelters to protect themselves from in the event of a nuclear Armageddon? you appear to be children overcoming an inferiority complex by imagining you are uncovering a vast (and physically impossible i might add) conspiracy. Oh and I’m seeing flashes of ‘the Jews did it” here. wassamatter? The Jewish family down the street got a bigger house then your mom and pop have? did your Jewish supervisor at Burger king get your ass fired for being the morons that you are? Did the Jewish kids at school go on to college why you are stuck rounding up the steel cattle it the Piggly Wiggly parking lot? Pay attention to Arthur Scheuerman and Jerry Wickey, because they get it right kiddies. or wallow in your ignorance for another seven years failing to bring any evidence whatsoever of a conspiracy to the forefront outside of wild, delusional, paranoid and insane speculation. grow the eff up.
A W Smith your post is pretty immature why are you telling these guys to grow up ? What is a grown man so obsessed with the “physically impossible” that he still shows up and posts on boards such as this one , for “another seven years” ?
why do you continue to wallow in such ignorance A W Smith?
Bootsy. what other truther boards have I posted on? And for seven years? I wasn’t aware the stupidity of truthers existed until the fall of 06, do the math Bootsy. thats two years, And we are still asking for evidence of a conspiracy which i see is completely absent from your post. How immature of you to post no evidence yet defend ignorance. so whats holding you back Bootsy? Post some of that evidence.
“seven years failing to bring any evidence whatsoever of a conspiracy to the forefront outside of wild, delusional, paranoid and insane speculation. grow the eff up.”
The only point worth replying to, to point out the tastic of
1 Begging the question, (assuming an answer in the way the question is phrased)
2 Appeal to ignorance (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)
3 Meaningless question (”what happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?” or “to whom is the bachelor married?” )
4 Short-term v. long-term - a subset of excluded middle (”why pursue fundamental science when we have so huge a budget deficit?”)
5 Slippery slope - a subset of excluded middle - unwarranted extrapolation of the effects (give an inch and they will take a mile)
6 Suppressed evidence or half-truths
Hell I’ll stop there.
The obvious reply is Mr. Columbo, we do not have the supeana powers like the ones that have done all they can to destroy evidence and obstruct any legal method toward justice. No, you just accept the words form proven liars, and tell us we have issues?
We have sought through that freedom of information act various documents and video tapes they claim do not exist, but what to do when the entire executive branch has it all under some arbitrary secret classifications in which even an honest whistleblower can’t even speak about without a prison sentence hanging over their head.
Thank you for exposing yourself here.
A ps is in order.
It went on to say, get this,
“I wasn’t aware the stupidity of truthers existed until the fall of 06, do the math Bootsy”
Now that is one tight confession. Was it in a prison until that time period totally devoid of real news contact and entertainment sights like fox gnewz? Not until ‘06?? Thats a confession, “I wasn’t aware”.
meatwaddoesntgetit
Your attempt to rake in inapplicable logical fallacies that do not even remotely apply to my posts amuses me. You admit theres no evidence of a conspiracy and because of that there must be a conspiracy? You claim that the lack of evidence is all because you poor children have no supeana powers. Hell if you had any evidence for a crime you sure would have supeana power. Go ahead tear the Nist report apart, tell us what they get wrong mister engineer, Your blinkered eyes can’t even see that the two videos posted above debunk your CD theory. All along we have been hearing from idiots about how seven fell in its own footprint so it must have been a cd. but there it is in the above video. In all its glory. clearly falling to the south. toward the same side that was damaged in the collapse of the north tower. Oh and in the same breath we hear the argument from ignorance that a quarter mile high tower should not disperse material 400 feet away? By what logic? Its a freaking quarter mile high building for christs sake! Bombs in the basement or cd devices placed in the core via elevator access? Whats the last thing you see standing in that video above. cmon tell me. is that the core spire? And I have to laugh when I see anybody invoking Judy Wood. A mental case who should go back into the coma she was in for years. When i saw the interview she gave to Greg Jenkins I actually felt sorry for her and understood why she was fired. Think it was because she was a whistleblower? Do a search. find out what her own students thought of her. Shes a NUT.
A W Smith - “The Jewish family down the street got a bigger house then your mom and pop have?”
Thanks for destroying your own scree with this most common of logical fallacies: [Shoot the messenger] and saving us the effort of doing so ourselves.
If you can’t invalidate the argument then invalid the speaker, huh? Everybody should note this text as a prime example of this tactic. And note it’s totally devoid of any facts whatsoever. No you can laugh it off.
Mr “Smith”… surely you can summon a better subterfuge based argument than that lame old horse? You do, however, constantly invoke another argumentative “trick” as your Plan B measure - that of intentionally inciting emotional anger to cloud the issues.
I just wonder… who pays your bills?
Who pays my bills? why certainly I do. Oh no I must be a government OP sent here to undermine the “truth”. Your paranoia knows no bounds. I’m using ‘tricks” am I? just like gapped tooth imbecile Jason Bermas was “tricked” into saying the FDNY was in on it by Abby Scott using a “Jedi mind trick”? good grief the “truth” movement is its own worst enemy. As moment after moment they insert foot in mouth. I have to confess yes I did hear about 9/11 conspiracy theories for a brief instant seven years ago. That of thierry maison, Nut when you hear stupidity like the CIA is part of the Vatican you can pretty much dismiss this nut case without even opening the cover of his book. Sort of like claims that Jesus visited north America.
AW Smith - “Your paranoia knows no bounds.”
Ahahaa.. you just won’t stop doing my job for me will you?
The evidence of my claim is literally written in B&W… by yourself. Again - no facts from you, just personal attack. You ARE a one trick pony aren’t you. ..?
I leave you (forever) with:
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Description of Ad Hominem
Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:
1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B makes an attack on person A.
3. Therefore A’s claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
No facts? Must i quote my posts in entirety and resubmit them? For heavens sake look up and read. you pick four words out “‘your paranoia knows no bounds” and weakly attempt to attach a logical fallacy to them which does not even apply? Questioning who pays my bills is not paranoia? Gimme a break. LOL.
Mr/s smith once again to the defense of lowly old booshCo.
We have a confession from a mr silverstein when in his braggardo told us all that we need to know. “great loss of life, the best thing to do is to pull -it-”, a non personal “pronoun” which directs the sentence to a subjective noun, and that noun being, “building” and they watched the building collapse.
Logic, english sentence structure, this you can spin all you want to, but the fact remains, a hell of a lot of kikishness flows through that sewer.
I see you are still unaware. Keep it that way, you will finance someones retirement plan other than your own.
Mr/s smith once again to the defense of lowly old booshCo.
We have a confession from a mr silverstein when in his braggardo told us all that we need to know. “great loss of life, the best thing to do is to pull -it-”, a non personal “pronoun” which directs the sentence to a subjective noun, and that noun being, “building” and they watched the building collapse.
The fact that the bush admin has sequestered away all video evidence for the “plane” into the pentagon should be raising flags for theunbiased mind. If they really want us to buy that failed excuse, they would have shown those videos long ago, but no plane means they cant show those tapes, so hide them all away as thy have.
Logic, english sentence structure, this you can spin all you want to, but the fact remains, a hell of a lot of kikishness flows through that/your sewer.
I see you are still unaware. Keep it that way, you will finance someones retirement plan other than your own.
“If you can’t invalidate the argument then invalid the speaker, huh? Everybody should note this text as a prime example of this tactic. And note it’s totally devoid of any facts whatsoever.”
All too true Daro.
It took some time to recognize it for what it was, but once seen can never be mistaken again.
The braggert silverstein twisting all around is the best comedy routine they have around.
“Hell if you had any evidence for a crime you sure would have supeana power.”
See how they twist reality into some comedy routine folks.
As if me a long haired leaping gnone, can just pop up with a warrant to search records.
LOL, i gets better and better as they go deeper and deeper. Bring the gas masks along, the sewers really stink.
We are back to the long debunked Silverstein quote? during a TV interview? What/ did he let it slip? You refuse to accept the facts.
“pull it’ is not an explosive or incendiary demolition term, The term is only use in demolition is when a structure is pulled down with cables.
Fire departments do not demolish buildings
Fire departments do not take orders from building owners. they and they alone decide to pull recovery and rescue efforts only when they determine that it is no longer safe, Silverstein was concerned with the potential for more lives lost. and thought the safest thing to do was ‘pull it” the rescue and recovery operation ya moron. not the building.
I’m expecting your next post to be about your belief that they were demolished because of asbestos remediation expense in
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We must’ve hit something good on this board because the “Yahoo Judaism Message Boards” team showed up. (Their franchise player is a fake Mike Rivero from Greenland who coughs up huge fumbles.)
This is what I think Larry Silverstein was doing on 9/11 with his “pull it” comment. A couple years back at Woodbine racetrack, I saw this horse veer out of the pack and run 120 feet straight into the outer rail. It was like something out of a movie. (The jockey dived like a stuntman, too.) I later figured the thing was likely full of stimulants and the jockeys have an unwritten rule that substandard horses that laced get taken out because they’re rider killers when they’re in the turns and packs.
Silverstein was doing the exact same thing with the 9/11 WTC story. If I want you to fight until the death over the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, I don’t go telling you that the gunman was my neighbour last year and my one-time friend in my army unit in the same breath, right? Why play charades with the hidden word being “hoax”?
Here’s an interesting question. What if the WTC towers were still standing on 9/12? What if they looked like they had been partially renovated by cheap contractors and then abandoned? How much would that have changed things?
Remember, when it comes to evidence, the government can just treat it like the failed 7/7 attack on London’s Canary Wharf - you get a couple of paragraphs in the Toronto Globe & Mail and that’s it.
To #118, The quote is debunked by those that believe in liars, not credible coupled with the actual structure of the language, the pronoun “it” was refering to a subject noun, now what could that have been,,, maybe “building collapse”. Period end of debate.
Seek out the nouns used and compare where the pronouns etc are placed. Gives comprehension a new level of understanding.
There ya go again.
The pull it, was/if/not a demolitions term is a red herring diversion, a businessman landlord said the term. It meant what they watched.
You bring in the fire command, tell us why they would call silverstein, why?
Better yet, you bring in any valid evidence to back up the bushCo lies, and I’ll with the help of many others as seen here, I’ll tell you where it all falls apart.
Oh, and sorry to disappoint but I moved on after leaving the last comments.
To #120, What if the firefighters reached the damaged floors and thought they could “knock it down wit two lines”(sic). What would that do to the plan if they had put the fires out, then where would the plan be. There was a helicopter, obviously officially allowed in there, dropping things onto the towers roof just moments before the thing came down. Why toss anything down?? There were no repellers dropping down from those light weight bell choppers. What could have been in those white box shaped things they dropped??
I speculate, they-bushCo intended percussion detonators that would have gone off when the plane came in, but! the hole the plane left was forgotten in the plan and there was not enough pressure built up to set them off. Resort to plan b…
Those seismograms tell a tale. Get as many sources as possible for the initial plane impact and collapse, then compare the collumbia seismograms time. The distance the waves travel through the ground is not even worth equating in the time scales.
See, we can speak know facts, what do they have, classified evidence? Personal attacks?? Endless Loops.
Grand Jury time, all evidence and witnesses seen and heard, justice will balance this all out.
o teh lulz
Do you like all of my typos?
“we can speak knowN facts, what do they have, classified evidence?”
The best explanation for the advertisements that were the JFK assassination and 9/11 is not in the mechanics of these events at all. November 1963 tried to sell a nuclear war with the USSR and September 2001 tried to sell a world war between the West and Islam.
A decade later after JFK, his murderers’ far right backers could not have had their stock tank lower. I have to even wonder if the Viet Nam war was in retaliation for that TV show out of Dallas.
9/11 is only 7 years old and already America has a black president whose full name contains the words Osama AND Hussein. No one western, educated and in their right mind would want to serve in either the illegal Iraq war or in Afghanistan. (Worst case scenario: you gave up your mobility for what?)
Both JFK’s death and the collapse of the WTC towers were written for new mediums as well. By 1963, most of the people who made slightly over minimum wage had a TV set. They were used to movies and news reports that looked like movie clips. By 2001, that same group was familiar with the http://WWW. They were used to outlandish oddities that somehow had occurred in reality and could be shown in real time.
What a bunch of drivel. Grow up you teenagers. You sound like the old John Birch Society. Looking for a “Commie” behind every bush.
If this was an inside job, we’d know all about it by now. The “perp” would have sold his/her story to the National Enquirer.
Alpena Bob.. if anyone needs to grow up its you.
These perepetrators and those in the know are being quiet because of Bribes, secret bank accounts overseas
bank accounts and black mail.. Thats enough to keep anyones mouth shut. dont you think
Eric Vaughn.. If you are judging this black president because of his name.. Barak HUSSEIN OBAMA… it is because you have fallen victim to brain washing and propaganda.. Saddam HUSSEIN and OSAMA bin laden who are both deceased I might add.. Your brain was meant to connect these so called terrorists names to this president elect. Do some research and learn to think for yourself.
Eric Vahghan, My humble apologies for my earlier comments. I retract what I said.
Too many Christmas drinks.. lol
annjie on 11.09.08 at 10:27 am “Normal demolitions to my knowledge dont as a rule reduce everything to dust. I believe that maybe a satelite weapon was used to bring the buildings down.”
As a ‘rule’, gravity induced collapses do not cause bone FRAGMENTS to be propelled across to other nearby buildings rooftops, and I suspect beam technology neither.
But kicker charges to knock beams from alignment after the thermite type device does it’s job would propell bone fragments.
Tesla remarked that given a modest amount of power and sufficiently assembled equipment he could split the earth in two. This comment was written off given his eccentric nature, but he wasn’t grandstanding it turned out… Today’s oil company geologists tune electromagnetic impulses to specific frequencies and measure the return signals to find oil. They used to use sonics (sound reflections from small charges). Every element and even compound material has its unique resonance frequency with which you can impart energy directly into the material even if it lays buried hundreds of feet underground. These uses are 1/10,000 the power of HAARP. It’s built, it’s HUGE (acres and acres big) and it operates. What it actually DOES is extremely vague.
…youtube.com/watch?v=dNrL9o7mh-M
Sorry - correction. The oil companies use 30 Watts. HAARP uses BILLIONS of Watts. See the video above…
I’ve found that the best way to sum up all of this 9/11 mystery stuff is in this one simple phrase: It’s all about the muscle.
The Muscle tried to get America to believe that it had been attacked by anthrax from Iraq in 2001. America’s captains of industry decided that was suicidal and deliberately tore the Muscle’s number down on that issue. An Iraqi anthrax attack was an essential piece of the plan to go to war with Iran. America even killed those it thought had anything to do with the US military-grade anthrax. To try and get this through, the Muscle even attacked the CIA.
Most people of an education level along the lines of Europe do not personally believe that people from countries with an average 75% illiteracy level with the most illiterate and unenlightened personal beliefs totally outsmarted teams of highly educated people at their workplace, not once but four times in one day. That doesn’t matter. The Muscle can stop this subject from travelling very far by cutting off its air. They do that on a whole bunch of things on a daily basis. Once again, it’s all about the Muscle.
Daro, Telsa took advantage of the properties of ‘harmonic resonance’. Attaching a device with the ability to fine tune the frequency is all he did. This device if used, would not propell body fragments to nearby roof tops. The device needs a physical attachment to break up the body.
Eric, it’s that muscle and it has shown it’s ugly face. Look to who and how they obstructed something called justice.
A dead bum in a New York Alley way gets more police attention than all the people killed on September 11th 2001.
Anyone that has lied about any of the facts pertaining to those crimes should be tried as a coconspirator of those crimes.
In response to MeatwadGetsIt’s last post, here’s some amazing reading in this short link:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html?q=ICTS.html
It’s pure muscle that keeps anything like this out of the eyes of the average person (and in hard-to-find corners of the Internet.) It’s in the same league as this TV show that used to be funny, but now only has its moments. You bring that seemingly obvious fact up just about anywhere and your post is history.
Yep, and all the airports had the same “technical problems” with their surveilance camera systems.
Funny that, just as the “7/7″ attacks in London a few years later and THE SAME SECURITY COMPANY with the same “technical problem”!
Right, and the tooth fairy sells the Brookland bridge on weekends to yuppies.
Can we say the propaganda has run it’s course, repeated too often and exposed to the light like the boy that cried wold one too many times?
(sry4cps)
I finally got around to Googling “Alex Jones predicts 9/11.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8
You have to see this. It’s only 2 minutes. His w…i…f…e must’ve died of shock that evil Tuesday.
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